This film did change a lot of the preconditioned ideas and concepts in my head, including my previously blind religious faith and respect to higher authority.

Also, this article doesn’t even discuss the points that were raised by the film, it simply calls it bullshit without providing any counter-facts. I guess it’s a natural reaction to anyone who is brainwashed and afraid to come out of the dark. I had that reaction at first. All those I know who saw the film felt the same.

But unfortunately it is true that every war the US was involved had in fact economic reasons behind it..you can take a look at Edward Bernays’s (father or PR)speeches.. where he literally points out the methods he used to create propaganda preparing public opinion to favor war. Every intervention had an interest behind it…no country goes to war for the sake of war.

I’m not exactly a fan of Zeitgeist or the Venus project but it does point out some flaws in the American society:
- the fanatic nationalism of the Americans…
- the failure of occidental capitalism (maybe we should learn from Asian capitalism that’s so successful today)…
- the lack of social measures in USA politics…
- the religious fanaticism that is so widely spread in your country
- the huge discrepancy between social classes
- the powerlessness of the people over political decisions
- the almost propagandistic way the media now functions
- the exaggerate cult for products, status, propriety..
- the lack of interest for higher human values in detriment of wealth..

I was also amazed by the general tone of the documentary – each claim (the nativity in blindly following religious beliefs for example) was presented as a great discovery…as if they were speaking to a dumb uncultured audience .

Objectively speaking and without bad intentions….the US is one greedy, aggressive and reckless country…that needs time to learn out of it’s mistakes, just like a rebelled teenager needs time to mature… a couple of centuries is not enough..
On the bright side it’s a great breeding spot for technological progress.

This is the exact principle applied as in the Rig Veda. Rig Veda says, whatever you have, food, water, shelter and clothing, all must be shared equally. Education must be equal for all, and everybody must assist everyone to progress at a gradual pace and lend a hand to bring harmony in the society. The principle of Zeitgeist is so simple and easy to understand that I am sure there is no scheme over here to misuse anybody’s faith or trust.

Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Sikh, everybody can benefit from this idea and this is one marvelous truth. They are right when they say money needs to go. Absolute truth is attained when the awareness is shifted from material achievement to awareness of the Self. That is only possible, when humans are relieved from pressures of job, survival and also taught to preserve nature. This is a beautiful movement and there is nothing to feel scared about. You can start one movement in your locality, bring better spiritual education, learn to respect animals and trees, and stand up against corruption etc.

As long as one is put under constant pressure of wealth, corruption, theft and stealing will always be there. Money is the root cause for all evil in the world. Stop confiscating properties, open up resources, and come together to support each other regardless of race, religion, cultures and languages. Everybody must speak one language of love, and above all, there must be non-violence. Zeitgeist is getting THERE!

Now comes the criticism. First part: I do not need such a well-cooked set of arguments to convince me that
religion is a lie. Different religions contradict each other. How can I accept that I was lucky to fall into the
right religion by chance? Religion has a tribal origin. It convinces people that their group has a supernatural help to beat the rivals. This is clearly the case for the Hebrew or the vikings, the greeks and many others. Furthermore, it was also used by rulers and kings to legitimate their power. Believing in religion today is like believing in Father Christmas or Santa Claus when you are grown-up. Furthermore,
the analysis trying to trace all symbols into astronomical facts is too strong to be true. It does not look too scientific.

For the second and third part I lack a better explanation of who was in the conspiration and who wasn’t. It is hard to believe in conspirations involving too many people with different jobs and interests. As I said before
it is easier to believe that the intelligence service did not react to something planned by islamists, than to think that it was all set up by them. There are also facts that are fishy about the remains of the planes and the subsequent investigation. One explanation is that some planes were shot down by the airforce and they did not want to make that public. I am not an architect and cannot judge about the way the towers collapsed. The opinions and facts presented in the film are quite intriguing.

In summary, despite its possible inaccuracies and exagerations, I would recommend to see it.

But what I think is more important than these similarities, is the fact that even some of Jesus’s own followers and possibly even some of the disciples did not necessarily believe him to Devine. Jesus’s godly lineage, important dates (such as his birth and easter), and resurrection were of great debate until the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE. The gospel of Thomas found with the gnostic texts is dated to 100 CE (hidden so as to avoid being destroyed upon the orders of the Council). These texts of early christians make no mention of Jesus’s virgin birth, miracles, having 12 disciples, the crucifixion, or resurrection. Jesus is also never given the title Christ or Lord.
So I ask… if even his early followers were not sure of his divinity, how can people be so sure 2000 years later. Especially when a council of elite were charged with deciding what information should be passed on as truth and what should be burned and forgotten. Is it so hard to believe that these men would try to protect their own interests…. consider how poorly the policies of the catholic church aligned with the original teachings of Jesus (did you ever hear of Jesus charging taxes from his followers).

So although I do agree that Zeitgeist should have done a better job of presenting credible sources for the information presented on the religious figures mentioned (and not have included them in his argument if credible sources are not available), I believe it does its job in demonstrating that religion should be questioned. I mean, what other knowledge do we unconditionally hold as true from 2000 years ago, with no evidence or proof that the information had not been tampered with (just look at how many versions of the bible have popped up in the last 500 years?).

This is one of the major problems I have with religion in general (but especially the abrahamic religions). Apart from concentrating power, they impede the progress of understanding. Rather than allowing the peoples understanding of the world adapt with each new discovery they ostracize anyone with a new idea and claim it to not be possible because of dogma. The church has condemned every new scientific find from the heliocentric theory to the existence of a vacuum and to this day the theory of evolution. Why is it so hard to accept that religion was an early attempt at science (which is simply the attempt to explain our physical world) and that with time our understanding has increased… but since these early attempts required gods to explain the unexplainable, it’s heresy to move on to new ideas regardless if they have more supporting evidence.

Science is my religion (not to be mistaken with scientology), and what’s great is that even if everything I have ever learned about the world is proven wrong, any new information will still be part of science… because that is what science is… it’s just trying to get to the truth, even if that means disproving the past. I mean Einstein proved that Newton was wrong… Einstein’s theory of relativity gets us closer to a true explanation for how the universe works; this doesn’t mean that Newton’s laws were irrelevant or that he was an idiot (in fact you’d have to be working with speeds close to that of light for you to see a difference between their results), but technically his equations are not perfectly correct. Scientists cannot and do not even claim evolution to be a fact or that the sum of the squares of the two smaller sides of a right triangle equals the root of the hypotenuse; they are theorems which are the best approximation we know and which have not been yet proven wrong.

This all being said, I agree with those of you that are more concerned with the second and third sections of the movie and Zeitgeist Addendum as it affects our lives today and the future. I too am looking for any information that counters the claims that these movies make especially in regards to the economic system and the FED.

I did however take the religeous history seriously and decided to do my own due diligence because I am a person of faith but with an open mind and quite willing to leave my comfort zone in the pursuit of truth.

I read through the cycle of Osiris and compared it to Christianity. I really didn’t see a valid connection personally. Religeous themes in general are, by nature similar in concept (birth, death afterlife, etc.)

I did listen to some mighty convincing rebuttles from more scholarly individuals. Zeitgeist is very sloppy in its characterazation of religion allthough has some truth in it. Religion has been used to manipulate and control the masses. This fact in it self does not negate the underlying belief system.

Personally, having viewed lots of these types of videoes, most are very sloppy with there facts when you check them out. Most of the info we receive is gotten second hand from people who themselves have received it second hand. Very few really investigate these matters. Zeitgeit is a classic example of this. The shear volume of info covered demands only a cursury reading into each matter was possible.

I prefer to read many different sources that have depth than one shallow overview as zeitgeist.

But Zeitgeit hopefully gets poeple stirred up to make that investigation for themselves. Reality is much different than we were taught.