"Tivo-ifies the web" Paul Kedrosky

Shane MacGowan: The Great Hunger

bbc
59 min 54 sec Mar 1, 2008 myspace.com

I’ll just repeat what I said about MacGowan in the Nick Cave post:

“The Pogues front man, although Irish, is a once preppy schoolboy from one of the most exclusive private schools in England, who created a fake persona of an Irish drunk, in the name of authenticity – to the point where it actually became real. MacGowan is, no doubt, both a genuinely troubled genius and self-indulgent, racist, self-parody of an Irishman.”

And that’s about someone I really like.

BBC Documentary Shane MacGowan

biography, music

11 comments on “Shane MacGowan: The Great Hunger

  1. liam says:

    Love the site. However noticed your Nick Cave post and now you’ve re-iterated it!
    Shane MacGowan is most definitely not a ‘fake persona’ created by a ‘preppy schoolboy’ and repeating this tired and patronising cliche does the man a great disservice.

    He spent much of his childhood shuttling between his Irish family in London and Ireland, both parents were not wealthy and he got a free scholarship to Westminster school which only lasted a couple of months before he was expelled for drug possession.

    Whilst the myth of the alcohol soaked Irish poet genius is just that, in his case he is the realest of deals. It was my fortune to drink in the same London pub as him and I can attest to his pordigious appetites. He is a man who has lived his life being incredibly true to his own self, regardless of the damage it has caused.

    Again, love the site, just had to try to correct the myth.

    A good article about him is here:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/dec/21/folk.music

  2. admin says:

    Fair comment, although I do think that despite the fact that MacGowan is a great man, the image is a sham – a great sham, like Bob Dylan as a boxcar-riding hobo folksinger.

    I actually think that people put too much store in authenticity and that both Dylan and MacGowan are so creative that the personas that they reworked have become something in their own right.

    But the problem with MacGowan, who, when I saw him perform last St. Patrick’s day, was in a wheelchair, is that he is both literally killing himself for his art, and in a way that glamorizes a stereotypical view of Irish people, in an era when Upper East Side New York condos are being advertised in Dublin as cheaper property than the local stuff.

    For what its worth, and not much, I’ll say this as a Celt who used to think playing this suffering drunk poet persona was cool and convincing.

  3. Wolfe Tone says:

    A Admin a chara (diaspora celt to diaspora celt),

    May I begin by saying that i like the site a lot. Thank you and well done. I am glad that I have an internet connection to your site, amongst others, rather than a TV.

    Can I just ask, have you watched this film?

    Do chara buan,
    Theobald Wolfe Tone

  4. Tom Foremski says:

    I wish somebody would say that about me except change a few words and sentences.

  5. john says:

    its dead unfortunately

  6. Fuck you David! says:

    Just wanted to point out what a cunt this David guy is. Nothing of what you posted in the video description has any trace of truth to it. Poor you, pathetic fuck.

  7. guest says:

    the link is dead, my pockets are empty, can someone please post the docu again? thanks by for now -dizzy

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  11. Byron says:

    Ummm, how about Shane MacGowan is being Shane MacGowan? Not “Shane MacGowan is giving a bad reputation to Irish people?” If so, why do almost all the Irish immigants I know (Woodlawn, Bronx) practically treat him like a mascot? There are other Irish members in the Pogues, and their drinking and social habits are certainly much more refined and conservative than his, that much I guarantee you. He’s just being himself, nobody in their right mind thinks that all Irish people are like Shane MacGowan.

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