"Tivo-ifies the web" Paul Kedrosky

Dog on a Skateboard vs Baby in the Pulpit

American Christianity is increasingly weirder than Christianity in other countries (except, I am told, Brazil, although I have never visited). When I was younger, this video of a infant preaching in the hellfire tones of a death metal band would have been an alien artifact from a backwater Bayou. Today, it would fit comfortably on the cultural flagpole of ‘America’s Funniest Home Videos’. Perhaps the fact that this one year old does a fairly good impersonation of a Baptist preacher says more about the intellectual culture of evangelical sermons than the infant’s prodigy.

This is the point where you might think that I have posted exactly what I said I wouldn’t – the equivalent of a 30 second clip of a dog on a skateboard. The difference is that encouraging dogs to perform human acts like skateboarding is more amusing than cruel, whereas encouraging children to perform adult tasks like preaching or fellatio, is inhuman.

This seemingly bland video sums up for me, something very serious, the rise of nationalism in the guise of an artless bastardization of a religion that was pretty fucked up to start with.

via Atheist Media


6 comments on “Dog on a Skateboard vs Baby in the Pulpit

  1. david williams says:

    wibble wobble luvv godle
    i’m sure the baby mentioned killer bees.

  2. Anon says:

    *shudder*. That kind of beast voice always gets to me, which is why i just cant enjoy metal.

    At least when a metal song is about hell you know that its just being sung for entertainment and not education |:

  3. mac says:

    The snake handlers time cometh, or so it seems.
    Hey I’m only repeating what the baby was saying.

  4. 808 says:

    American christianity scares me!
    It’s out of control and completely insane! There is no reasoning anymore just blind following.
    I honestly feel more spooked by these than by muslims.
    On the topic, have you ever seen this incridible movie called Zeitgeist?
    watch it here: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
    This 3 part movie is a documentary on religion, war, america and the power of the federal reserve bank!
    I find the first part very intriguing, it explains what Christianity & so much other religions are based upon. It’s almost scary to see how it all comes down to the same Egyptian ‘sun worshipping’ religion.
    The second part & third part is how religion is always used to gain power & control people, especially the third part about the powers of the federal reserve bank is frightening.
    After watching this documentary it left me stunned for hours. Ofcourse it doesn’t really tell the whole thruth and it only made from an american point of view (it forgets that their are other powers & countries in the world) but it is still a eye-opener!

  5. 808 says:

    oops, just found out you posted that zeitgeist movie….
    So how much of that movie is bullshit & what not?
    As i told, i find the first part about the religion intriguing cause i didn’t know there were so much similarities.
    The second part is just another 911 theory which i don’t really support, but the third part seemed very real to me because offcourse i’m not an american and secondly i can imagine such thing to be truth.
    anyway, he documentary seems to have inspired some hollywood scriptwriters because a movie about an ever powerfull bank is coming out next year: The International
    watch the trailer here: http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/theinternational/

  6. admin says:

    In summary form these are my problems with each component of Zeitgeist:

    The religion bit: the majority of the material appears to come from a single source: ‘The God Who Wasn’t There’, much of the same footage is used (even the stuff for artistic effect, e.g. the biblical silent movie) and its sources are quoted i.e. secondary rather than primary sources. It not only doesn’t add much from from the original material, and hides what appears to be the primary source, but gets some things wrong – something that suggests plagiarism. Just because much religion is bogus doesn’t make Zeitgeist correct.

    The 911 conspiracy theory stuff can be dismissed most effectively by appeal to Occam’s razor, and has been extensively debunked by people like the BBC. However, like the religious ideas that Zeitgeist refutes, no amount of debunking of Zeitgeist will ever work, because people believe Zeitgeist, like some believe in Intelligent Design, i.e. for emotional rather than rational reasons. Rather than discussing the details, which for me is like a chemist arguing with a priest as to whether you can make water into wine by saying a prayer, I am more interested in the general pathology of such ideas. Zeitgeist takes a recent event and suggests it was a conspiracy. All major events from the moon landing to the JFK assassination will develop conspiracy theories for the same reason Mystery and Thriller is a movie genre and ironically for exactly the same reason that religion exists: some people want to believe in them, they are exciting.

    The last part is the most disturbing. There is a type of conspiracy theory that seems to self-emerge when people have fears about outsiders controlling money. This idea has arisen in different countries in different guises for centuries. An example this century would be the Protocol of the Elders of Zion, an anti-semitic forgery that played some role in the horrible violence wreaked on European Jews. Since European Jewry was blindsided by virulent anti-semitsm at a time of economic turmoil in the very places (Berlin, Vienna) where Jews were most assimilated and felt most safe, it makes sense to be vigilant against a repeat. I am uneasy that a variant of this idea is extremely viral on the Internet, in the country whose largest city (New York) best approximates Vienna in the 1920s in terms of Jewish assimilation. If one believes that memes are more than merely analogous to genes, then the last part of Zeitgeist is a single mutation away (saying the Federal Reserve is a Jewish conspiracy of the Rothschilds, for example) from violence incurring anti-semitism.

    Taking Occam’s razor to the three strands together: just as Darwinism shows that complex actions can self emerge, without a designer, I believe that complex human actions can evolve without a conspirator. Things like religion, 911 and the Federal Banking system happened because people think and act in a certain way, a co-ordinated conspiracy of the type Zeitgeist alleges is far more complicated and unlikely. If the world required conspiracies for religion to take hold, it would be entirely secular.

    Further, just as complex genes can self emerge, complex memes can self emerge, and ideas which are false but seductive will survive as viruses, spreading amongst the true but boring. The religion that Zeitgesit would have us believe is a conspiracy is one of these self-evolved viral memes (rather than a deliberately designed idea), but there is a another here. Zeitgeist itself is a viral meme, a false idea (that religion, 911 and the US banking reserve are an age old conspiracy of elders) that spreads naturally amongst minds primed to give into entertainment over reason.

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