Comments on: TV is moving to the Web in the Wrong Way. http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/ A hand picked TV channel Thu, 10 May 2012 11:22:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Bakrex http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2565 Bakrex Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:04:53 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2565 I am very interested in this topic. I am very interested in this topic.

]]> By: hntrnyc http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2484 hntrnyc Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:13:20 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2484 Actually Jonathon, I now have the lot, including the two specials that were released after the series. It made my head swim and you are right, Malcolm is bloody brilliant as is the entire series! Any opinions on Yes Minister or Yes Prime Minister? Could be my next quarry...... Actually Jonathon, I now have the lot, including the two specials that were released after the series. It made my head swim and you are right, Malcolm is bloody brilliant as is the entire series!
Any opinions on Yes Minister or Yes Prime Minister? Could be my next quarry……

]]> By: Jonathan http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2481 Jonathan Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:47:41 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2481 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIzx_Z-TGe4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIzx_Z-TGe4</a> You can get In The Thick of It on YouTube, full length episodes of most of season one - Malcolm is bloody brilliant. If you haven't seen it let me get you started with this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIzx_Z-TGe4

You can get In The Thick of It on YouTube, full length episodes of most of season one – Malcolm is bloody brilliant. If you haven't seen it let me get you started with this one.

]]> By: alitraxx http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2480 alitraxx Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:55:13 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2480 Charlesfrith, I live in HK too and I use Hotspot Shield first and then can watch hulu. Won't work for BBC though. Charlesfrith, I live in HK too and I use Hotspot Shield first and then can watch hulu. Won't work for BBC though.

]]> By: charlesfrith http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2479 charlesfrith Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:31:26 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2479 It's just bollocks isn't it. I live outside the UK currently in Hong Kong and I can't sample a lot of great content like Hulu and now it seems C4. I've a theory that progressive societies ossify at some point because there are so many civilised job to ensure fairness that eventually everything is fair and the people employed in them have nothing to do. So they look for anything to justify their positions which seems pretty reasonable to me but I can't imagine being in a job where I was creating needs that don't exist. Oh wait, I work in advertising ;) It's just bollocks isn't it. I live outside the UK currently in Hong Kong and I can't sample a lot of great content like Hulu and now it seems C4.

I've a theory that progressive societies ossify at some point because there are so many civilised job to ensure fairness that eventually everything is fair and the people employed in them have nothing to do. So they look for anything to justify their positions which seems pretty reasonable to me but I can't imagine being in a job where I was creating needs that don't exist. Oh wait, I work in advertising ;)

]]> By: hntrnyc http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2475 hntrnyc Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:33:47 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2475 Thank You Jonathon and Henry, actually I watched Justin.tv for the first time this weekend, catching the 24 hours at Lemans. The proxy may be the route and I would happily pay the amount. Good point also on the amount of trash these days on British television, I for one, perhaps romanticize it more than most. Recently, I scored the first season of the Inbetweeners and despite all the hype was pretty disappointed. On the other hand, I also recently have been turned on to the 2005 series The Thick of It and was truly smitten. I had never even heard of it before as I live in the states and I doubt it will be coming the BBC America anytime soon. David, can we perhaps start posting a list of must have shows that some of us may have missed? Or, could you post your all time faves and we can chime in with our own lists as well? Just a thought. Thank You Jonathon and Henry, actually I watched Justin.tv for the first time this weekend, catching the 24 hours at Lemans.
The proxy may be the route and I would happily pay the amount. Good point also on the amount of trash these days on British television, I for one, perhaps romanticize it more than most. Recently, I scored the first season of the Inbetweeners and despite all the hype was pretty disappointed. On the other hand, I also recently have been turned on to the 2005 series The Thick of It and was truly smitten. I had never even heard of it before as I live in the states and I doubt it will be coming the BBC America anytime soon.
David, can we perhaps start posting a list of must have shows that some of us may have missed? Or, could you post your all time faves and we can chime in with our own lists as well?

Just a thought.

]]> By: Jonathan http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2472 Jonathan Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:48:29 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2472 Right now I don't use a proxy service so I cannot give you a personal pointer. However I can say that I live in Singapore which is proxy unfriendly and despite this there is a pub near where I work that has UK TV run on a professional proxy server service which they mainly use for sport. It's quite funny walking in around six or seven in the evening and finding crap daytime British TV on live - lets not forget the heaps of crap we left behind us (wherever we came from). Proxy servers can get found out and then you lose it so there are two routes: 1. A professional service thats been around for a while and has sufficient coverage to make enough money to keep beating the man. Personally I'd go with this method and pay up to $10-$20 USD per month after shopping around. I would expect more of these services to come about as time goes by. Choose one that has been operating for a while and has track record and that makes its money without making any obvious enemies. 2. The other way is a mate who has a bit of IT savvy who'll set up a proxy for you in the UK or other countries (he or she will probably need to live there). It wont need to beat the man as only you'll be using it so it wont be like anyone will notice. In fact I'm sure the Smashing Telly Fan Club could probably chip in and raise enough cash to sort one out so we could all watch enough reruns of Butterflys and Minder - no hang on ... Anyway the deal with a proxy server is probably more to do with where you are. If you are in America and you want to watch C4 then probably no problem. If you are in China and you want to access Facebook on June the 4 then you'll have to hunt around and swap servers which is a hassle. So in contrition let me bring the point back round to David's original point (perhaps he'll post some nice video forus to enjoy), which is what will make broadcasters actually go online with some smarts? I really don't know the answer to that one. Here's a corn dolly: Codecs wont work out in the short term but don't be surprised if they do in the end and that some mid ground is broken with the broadcasters getting screwed so that we have open access, pay a little and have an open access information universe. Right now I don't use a proxy service so I cannot give you a personal pointer.

However I can say that I live in Singapore which is proxy unfriendly and despite this there is a pub near where I work that has UK TV run on a professional proxy server service which they mainly use for sport. It's quite funny walking in around six or seven in the evening and finding crap daytime British TV on live – lets not forget the heaps of crap we left behind us (wherever we came from).

Proxy servers can get found out and then you lose it so there are two routes:

1. A professional service thats been around for a while and has sufficient coverage to make enough money to keep beating the man. Personally I'd go with this method and pay up to $10-$20 USD per month after shopping around. I would expect more of these services to come about as time goes by. Choose one that has been operating for a while and has track record and that makes its money without making any obvious enemies.

2. The other way is a mate who has a bit of IT savvy who'll set up a proxy for you in the UK or other countries (he or she will probably need to live there). It wont need to beat the man as only you'll be using it so it wont be like anyone will notice. In fact I'm sure the Smashing Telly Fan Club could probably chip in and raise enough cash to sort one out so we could all watch enough reruns of Butterflys and Minder – no hang on …

Anyway the deal with a proxy server is probably more to do with where you are. If you are in America and you want to watch C4 then probably no problem. If you are in China and you want to access Facebook on June the 4 then you'll have to hunt around and swap servers which is a hassle.

So in contrition let me bring the point back round to David's original point (perhaps he'll post some nice video forus to enjoy), which is what will make broadcasters actually go online with some smarts?

I really don't know the answer to that one. Here's a corn dolly:

Codecs wont work out in the short term but don't be surprised if they do in the end and that some mid ground is broken with the broadcasters getting screwed so that we have open access, pay a little and have an open access information universe.

]]> By: Henry http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2470 Henry Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:16:43 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2470 Excellent point, I'm glad you're making it. I just went through game seven of the Stanley Cup finals jumping from one half baked stream to another. CBC.ca had it but only for ip addresses in Canada; NHL.com had it but only audio for non 'premium' subscribers, etc. On the illegitimate side, sites like <a href="http://atdhe.net/" target="_blank">http://atdhe.net/</a> aggregate streams posted to sites like justin.tv. Excellent point, I'm glad you're making it. I just went through game seven of the Stanley Cup finals jumping from one half baked stream to another. CBC.ca had it but only for ip addresses in Canada; NHL.com had it but only audio for non 'premium' subscribers, etc. On the illegitimate side, sites like http://atdhe.net/ aggregate streams posted to sites like justin.tv.

]]> By: hntrnyc http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2458 hntrnyc Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:37:44 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2458 Thanks for the intel Jonathan, do you know if anyone has had luck using the proxy server route? I have been frustrated by BBC radio dropping international access to the football phone in shows that I used to be able to access online. And yeah, if I have to see another FOX show (Kitchen Nightmares USA)l or another old James Bond flick foisted as a "BBC" programming................well, I guess I will just continue going the more nefarious route to current programs. Nuff said. Thanks for the intel Jonathan, do you know if anyone has had luck using the proxy server route? I have been frustrated by BBC radio dropping international access to the football phone in shows that I used to be able to access online.

And yeah, if I have to see another FOX show (Kitchen Nightmares USA)l or another old James Bond flick foisted as a "BBC" programming…………….well, I guess I will just continue going the more nefarious route to current programs. Nuff said.

]]> By: Jonathan http://smashingtelly.com/2009/06/08/tv-is-moving-to-the-web-in-the-wrong-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2448 Jonathan Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:37:47 +0000 http://smashingtelly.com/?p=1004#comment-2448 I'm sick of the BBC Entertainment channel - its one long repeats loop. It's going to take ages for the system for international broadcast to work itself out as artists appearing in BBC programming will want extra money for international distribution. This affects what BBC can broadcast on their international network as much as what Channel4 or other broadcasters can put online. In the meantime there's always proxy servers, if any of you are not sure what I mean or how to set one up here is one service: <a href="http://www.ukproxyserver.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.ukproxyserver.co.uk/</a> - little searching around and you'll find plenty of them. I'm sick of the BBC Entertainment channel – its one long repeats loop.

It's going to take ages for the system for international broadcast to work itself out as artists appearing in BBC programming will want extra money for international distribution. This affects what BBC can broadcast on their international network as much as what Channel4 or other broadcasters can put online.

In the meantime there's always proxy servers, if any of you are not sure what I mean or how to set one up here is one service: http://www.ukproxyserver.co.uk/ – little searching around and you'll find plenty of them.

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